topic Re: Stop changing my UI settings in Galaxy S23

Stop changing my UI settings

1000DegreeClippy — Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:35:00 GMT

How can I revert these incessant UI changes? How can I opt-out?

I don't want your stupid stacked clock. I don't want your pill-shaped battery. I don't want rounded apps on my home screen.

This is seriously making me think about never touching a Samsung product ever again. Seriously, JUST ASK if I like the new UI instead of changing it for me. I can see security updates, but UI? Changing MY personalization? Quit it and tell me how to reverse it.

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

realaud — Sat, 11 Oct 2025 01:05:02 GMT

Updates happen , and with updates come new looks. Updates are mandatory. Samsung snd Google own the software and they can change it in any way they like. Many of the cosmetic changes are Google's, so you will likely find the same look on any Android device. Only Samsung, though, gives you customization options.

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

CEParsons — Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:58:06 GMT

Hi, there!

I know change can be frustrating. Here is a helpful post about how to change certain things back: https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Samsung-Apps-and-Services/A-list-of-features-that-can-be-changed-back/td-p/3228060?src=ShareByUserCM

You can choose whatever lock screen clock style you like by long pressing the lock screen.

The pill will reportedly have the option to be disabled in One UI 8.5.

Unfortunately, you agreed to TOS and EULA when you first set up the phone. As such Samsung has both the ability and right to change the software on all Samsung phones in any way they deem appropriate to maintain a uniform appearance and experience across devices.

Most of these changes are being made to cohere with Google's new M3E design language and adhere to the style guide. Learn more about that here: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-material-3-expressive-features-changes-availability-supported-devices-3556392/

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

Iamchaos13 — Sat, 11 Oct 2025 00:04:07 GMT

So don't update. Turn off auto update.

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

Angelito32 — Sat, 11 Oct 2025 01:58:56 GMT

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Re: Re: Stop changing my UI settings

Angelito32 — Sat, 11 Oct 2025 01:59:24 GMT

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Re: Stop changing my UI settings

Phil_Reynolds — Sat, 11 Oct 2025 05:18:30 GMT

Maybe pitching a fit like a self centered child will help.

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

Shelliam — Sat, 11 Oct 2025 21:49:05 GMT

Download Good Lock. You can change a lot of these weird changes that they've forced down our throats. But seriously, Good Lock is a lifesaver.

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

1000DegreeClippy — Sun, 12 Oct 2025 03:18:08 GMT

That's a lame excuse. I bought the phone. It isn't Samsung's or Google's. If it isn't mine, then it shouldn't be called "purchasing."

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

1000DegreeClippy — Sun, 12 Oct 2025 03:16:06 GMT

Maybe replying with something useful will help. I spent $1500 on my phone, it is perfectly acceptable to be "self centered" for something that is literally mine genius.

How about I take something of yours, then mock you when you want it back? Oh right, that's bullying. Do better.

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

realaud — Sun, 12 Oct 2025 12:35:08 GMT

The hardware is yours. The software belongs to Google and Samsung. You agreed to the TOS and EULA when you activated your phone. You purchased the phone, the software us licensed to you. You should read things before you agree to them to make sure you fully understand what you are agreeing to. You can still read them, as they reside on your phone, in the about phone setting.

Re: Re: Stop changing my UI settings

1000DegreeClippy — Sun, 12 Oct 2025 03:22:35 GMT

I don't care what it says. They can change it whenever they want and I have no way to say no. I'm saying what I want, and I would hope they change from being anti-consumer, but each month it seems to be going farther in the opposite direction.

If I'm wrong, I'd like to know where I'm allowed to say "No."

Re: Re: Re: Stop changing my UI settings

realaud — Sun, 12 Oct 2025 03:29:46 GMT

You don't have a leg to stand on, legal or otherwise. You have an absolute right to say no, and not accept the ageement and not use the phone. You will, however, find the same terms with any brand. And as far as the terms with Google, you will have it with every Android phone. Apple is no better. Any device that requires software to run has basically the same terms in their license agreements. The software is theirs, and theirs alone and they license you to use it under terms they get to define.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop changing my UI settings

1000DegreeClippy — Sun, 12 Oct 2025 04:33:28 GMT

And living in the modern day without any of these devices is virtually impossible. Just because it is doesn't mean it should be. I'm going to get more involved with pro-consumer advocates like Louis Rossmann. You've given me the small push I needed to become radically pro-consumer.

Clippy just wanted to help. Clippy never said, "You should've read the terms." Screw the terms if they screw consumers. Thank you realaud, I'll remember this thread as my tipping point. And I mean that with sincerity. Have a great one 👍

Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop changing my UI settings

realaud — Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:05:16 GMT

It' the same with ANY app you "purchase" or use. You do not buy the software. You buy a licensed copy of the software that you have permission to use under the terms of the license agreement. Whether this practice is pro-consumer or not is irrelevant. The software belongs to the developer. Let's say you, yourself, created an app. It's a wonderful app that's in high demand. Would you want to keep your rights to tweak and improve it as you see fit, or would you rather every Tom, Harry and Mary be able to bastardize it and distribute it as their own? When you wanted to update, tweak it or otherwise change it, would you poll your users and ask for permission to make your changes? No, you would not. You would just go ahead and do as you see fit and, hopefully, your user base will still find it suits their needs.

You can build a computer, buy every component and circuit board you need. The hardware is yours to do as you want. However, your computer will not run without an operating system. You must purchase the operating system (more specifically, a license to use said operating system). Now, you can use Microsoft (also has a license agreement, closed source) or MacOS, (closed source licensing) or Linux (open source licensing). With open source licensing, you can make certain changes to meet your needs, but there is still a license agreement that the developer can make material changes, that may or may not change the way the changes you you made function. Some open source licenses may even reserve the right to incorporate changes *you* make to the system into the whole - with or without compensation.

This is why people should not just agree to terms without actually reading what they are agreeing to. You can't agree to terms and then claim you weren't informed of terms because you chose not to read the terms. You cannot claim the terms are unfair to you, the consumer, if you agreed to them. If you don't agree to the terms, then don't use the product. You say you can't survive in the modern world without using these devices and services. It's difficult, but it can be done. From the earliest days of personal computing these license agreements have been standard. Believe it or not, there are people who actually read them. Also, believe it or not, there are people who actually don't mind the changes, or they learn to live with them. Samsung offers wide latitude in customization options so that the user can put back what was lost, keep some semblance of the old interface, and otherwise make their user experience their own. I don't know of a single other brand that does that.

It's human nature not to like change when they've gotten used to doing things a certain way. It's also human nature to adapt, even though there may be a period of wailing and stomping one's feet.

I bet you don't read privacy policies either.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop changing my UI settings

1000DegreeClippy — Sun, 12 Oct 2025 15:05:42 GMT

I do actually look through a few of them, though not most. Same with terms and conditions. Same as almost any person. When I said I don't care, it doesn't mean I don't know what it says (they all basically say the same stuff). I'm not asking for custom updates, I'm asking for no updates. They can make the change anytime, and I can ask for them to change it.

And I already have made a product users used, and I did exactly what you said I wouldn't do. I asked everyone if they liked the idea of me adding something. I avoided adding anything that would change the experience for the people already using it. If I had to make a change, I let people know why I had to do it. I even made some of the changes live, with people watching me do it and I'd take their feedback into account! I've since shut it down, but I gave everyone the ability to recreate it easily themselves and a few have. I still help people set up if they are unsure what to do. I like to be fair, it is probably my most dominant personality trait. What you gave as an example in the first paragraph is appalling to me, if I'm being honest.

This obviously isn't reasonable at a large scale, not completely, but you know what is reasonable? Being pro-consumer. This is about more than UI changes. I haven't been contributing to open source and similar topics as much as I should have been with my background.

This is starting to get off topic. Luckily, it doesn't take everyone to make changes that benefit everyone. There isn't much more to say here.. especially since we went a bit farther than UI changes.

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

1000DegreeClippy — Sun, 12 Oct 2025 15:07:12 GMT

Tried something in developer options, but I bet it won't work. If you know a way to guarantee that I don't get an update, I'd like to know.

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

realaud — Sun, 12 Oct 2025 15:16:14 GMT

Updates are mandatory. The only way to NOT get an update would be to downgrade your phone to a model that is no longer in the update cycle. The S23 model is slated for updates through 2028. Or, if you have a carrier branded phone, have it unlocked and switch carriers. Your phone won't find the proper servers to find the updates on.

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

ParadroidX — Wed, 15 Oct 2025 15:08:49 GMT

All the departments need to keep the machine running, and UI changes are part of that unfortunately. Luckily 1ui8 isn't that bad as far as significant ui changes from 7. 6 to 7 was a huge ui change in my opinion. As is with all major software companies.
Really no way to revert to another Android version other than rooting.
As others have echoed in the comments check out GoodLock or the Home app in the Galaxy store for more customizations to your liking or to make it look more like 1ui7 if you prefer.

Re: Stop changing my UI settings

Gbgbgb — Fri, 24 Oct 2025 08:59:23 GMT

Good Lock does not much beyond giving more options to customize clock. You could add widgets before too.

But you can not change some notifications and audio control to the previous (ui6) pattern without widgets (that are permanently there, and previously available), you get a small pills and that is it.