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Massive AI Opportunity for Samsung Being Ignored - Linux Terminal Running AI LLMs on Dex - Issue Likely due to Knox RKP conflicting with Linux Terminal AVF at EL2

Mericah — Wed, 16 Jul 2025 00:21:15 GMT

Hello Samsung Community!

Samsung should advertise the Android Linux Terminal as a major AI feature! With Ollama running in the Linux terminal, Google Pixel users already demonstrated that they can run local AI large language models (LLMs) locally on their phone, as shown here: https://x.com/ar7work/status/1899999570396143769 .

Without this feature, Samsung is missing out on the single biggest AI power-user feature for mobile devices. Not to mention, full-fledged desktop Linux applications could be run in Dex!

I am trying to get the new Android Linux Terminal working on my S25 Ultra, and it is crashing on startup with an "Unrecoverable error." See (Screenshot 2). I have tried multiple times to reinstall it with no success.

Is it true that the micro hypervisor framework that is used to handle Knox Real-time Kernel Protection (RKP) directly conflicts with Android Virtualization Framework (AVF) running the Linux Terminal at Exception Level 2 (EL2)? More concicely, is the Knox RKP preventing the Linux terminal from running in AVF at EL2, thus preventing us from running the Linux Terminal on Samsung devices?

For some background, according to Mishaal Rahman, "chipsets that launch with vendor API level 202404 must declare support for AVF. That means every device with the Snapdragon 8 Elite is capable of supporting it" https://x.com/MishaalRahman/status/1882881189369074112 .

Therefore, S25 devices should be able to run AVF, and Google already mandated it. From my (Screenshot 1) below, it appears that the virtualization framework is installed. So why is the Linux terminal not working?

OS: One UI 8 Beta 3
Product Name: Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra Unlocked
Model Number: SM-S938U1

I just submitted a One UI 8 Beta error report through the Samsung Members app. I look forward to a response. Please let me know how I can help in any way through testing and feedback. I will update this post with any feedback I receive.

Thank you for the awesome work on the beta! Will this be resolved for One UI 8 release?

(Screenshot 1)

(Screenshot 2)

Re: Massive AI Opportunity for Samsung Being Ignored - Linux Terminal Running AI LLMs on Dex - Issue Likely due to Knox RKP conflicting with Linux Terminal AVF at EL2

Mericah — Wed, 16 Jul 2025 02:05:14 GMT

Android Authority ran Linux-based Doom using the AVF terminal app. Imagine being able to run desktop-based VSCode and develop Android apps for your phone, on your phone!

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-16-linux-terminal-doom-3521804/

Re: Massive AI Opportunity for Samsung Being Ignored - Linux Terminal Running AI LLMs on Dex - Issue Likely due to Knox RKP conflicting with Linux Terminal AVF at EL2

spen_master — Wed, 16 Jul 2025 02:06:20 GMT

Whoaaaa...

I want that 😁

Re: Massive AI Opportunity for Samsung Being Ignored - Linux Terminal Running AI LLMs on Dex - Issue Likely due to Knox RKP conflicting with Linux Terminal AVF at EL2

USBetaModerator3 — Thu, 17 Jul 2025 22:53:43 GMT

Hello,

Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with us.

We truly appreciate your suggestions and will share them with the relevant team for review and consideration in future updates. Your input helps us improve the overall One UI experience.

Thank you again for supporting the One UI Beta Program!

Regards,
One UI Beta Team

Re: Massive AI Opportunity for Samsung Being Ignored - Linux Terminal Running AI LLMs on Dex - Issue Likely due to Knox RKP conflicting with Linux Terminal AVF at EL2

Mericah — Thu, 17 Jul 2025 23:15:34 GMT

As it turns out, Mishaal Rahman has identified the problem. The Snapdragon 8 Elite does not currently support non-protected virtual machines.

Are there any plans to work with Qualcomm to allow non-protected virtual machines to run on the Snapdragon 8 Elite for the S25?

This is a major feature that flagship phones should be capable of. Thank you!

https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-z-flip-7-linux-terminal-3578675/

Re: Massive AI Opportunity for Samsung Being Ignored - Linux Terminal Running AI LLMs on Dex - Issue Likely due to Knox RKP conflicting with Linux Terminal AVF at EL2

bringbacksdcardslot — Fri, 18 Jul 2025 23:05:29 GMT

Code in Linux with my phone and Dex 😍

Re: Massive AI Opportunity for Samsung Being Ignored - Linux Terminal Running AI LLMs on Dex - Issue Likely due to Knox RKP conflicting with Linux Terminal AVF at EL2

Saturnlevrai — Wed, 23 Jul 2025 08:55:15 GMT

It's really a big issue for me, my z-fold 7 must be able to replace my laptop for some usecases and without Terminal It's not possible so please @USBetaModerator3 resolve this problem

Re: Massive AI Opportunity for Samsung Being Ignored - Linux Terminal Running AI LLMs on Dex - Issue Likely due to Knox RKP conflicting with Linux Terminal AVF at EL2

rampratap — Tue, 02 Sep 2025 11:02:56 GMT

Can chipset Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 on s23 ultra run AVF

Re: Massive AI Opportunity for Samsung Being Ignored - Linux Terminal Running AI LLMs on Dex - Issue Likely due to Knox RKP conflicting with Linux Terminal AVF at EL2

emersonbusson1 — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 17:34:19 GMT

this is sad samsung