ok it would have helped if I had posted this when I actually wrote it a few hours ago but I tested a few things after talking on Twitter with Samsung. I was told that the device would come on with the optics cable when the tv is turned on but not go off when its turned off. They sent me a link that had a note that said after 20 mins of no power to the tv the sound bar would turn off. so as I stated I tried a few things.
1. If I urn off the tv and leave the soundbar on after a minute or so I here the TV chime play then I can turn it off and it stays off.
2. After figuring that out I turned tv off waited a minute or so then I heard the on/off tune play through the sounds bar so I turned it off. I went and dicked around for 5 or so minutes came back up made sure it was still of and it was. Turned the tv back on and it came back on also.
3. I decided to try the 20 minute test and see if it turned itself off. I turned off the tv waited till i heard the chime again. Waited 20 mins somewhere along the line the soundbar turned itself off i turned tv back on and bar came one again.
So now I am just lost a bit on what to do is it ok is it not? I have a set up at my parents with a 7 series tv and the same exact soundbar. I am not 100% sure but I sear its set up with the optics cable also and it works with the full ARC support, I think. I cou.d be wrong and its hooked up through hdmi or its just go a better all around set up then the 6 series.