Why do we have to update to the Google Messages app

[Crazydog77749]

Whydo we have to update the system app to the Google sms app, on the Samsung s20fe? Now we get stuck with 2 Samsung apps.

[Popsicle20]

From what I've heard, the US carriers don't want to support more than one RCS network. They chose Google and we just have to go along with it.

[user5vU5CViEee]

So lame, I'm really beginning to hate samsung. Esp after the my files move a file issue.

[usermi80lJMp17]

so earlier yesterday morning after my mom text me i got notify pop up samsung text message app that it wanted me to go into google messenger now i said not now and i also saw it at the top when i open messenger to see text message i also said not now

that's going to come up and continue to  notify me in a few days will it? i don't know why want to do it on my s20 phone  i thought it was just newer devices i did go into sms message and i see verizon messenger plus and samsung messenger has always been default messenger app

i did go into google play store and funny thing is google messenger  has never been install on my s20

so here's my question what if i did say yes and did that would google messenger app start to download on its own without my permission and then make it as my default messenger app or what

am not to crazy about this because mon i went into galaxy theme store and i used a halloween theme my text message and other icons were orange/halloween look

i know that google message you can't even change theme to a custom theme anyways meh

[Bar_Na]

Recently when I would open my default and only sms/messages app, Samsung Messages, I was getting the recommendation every few days to upgrade to Google Messages for a better richer safer etc experience. I repeatedly selected "not now". Eventually I decided to download Google Messages and try it out. But it was clear to me that it is NOT as good as Samsung Messages. With Samsung Messages I already have some amount of RCS but only with contacts who I believe are also using Samsung or certain Android phones. These RCS features include seeing when they are typing (with the moving dots/periods), in the chat/conversation screen, and seeing when my text messages are both "Delivered" and "Read". However in Samsung Messages the only RCS feature that is lacking, which Samsung apparently doesn't want to add, is the "reaction" feature, using emojis, "likes", hearts etc on messages. In Google Messages I saw right away that it only had "RCS chat" features for only the same contacts for whom I have it in Samsung Messages, and not for any other contact. So maybe the only plus/advantage of Google Messages would be that I could have the "reaction" feature, but only with the few Samsung/Android contacts... And not with any other contacts who are on iPhones or other phones.

Also, in Samsung Messages I can customize ALL the chat conversation screens, regardless of the contact and regardless of whether I have RCS features with the contact or not. THIS is NOT possible to do in Google Messages!

Another difference, in Samsung Messages there is a dedicated Trash bin folder that keeps deleted messages for thirty days, and I have the option to recover any deleted messages during that time. In Google Messages there is NO Trash, instead any deleted messages are immediately and permanently deleted and unrecoverable.

One other difference, albeit a minor one, is that in Samsung Messages when I have unread messages it will show a notification at the top of the main screen, and this notification will remain there until I decide to view those unread messages. I did not see this feature in Google Messages.

And finally, as soon as I made Google Messages the default app and opened it, I saw right away that many of my text messages were missing from each chat conversation! Some commenters here have said that the missing text messages probably were just misplaced in the Spam folder and that they weren't gone, but I didn't notice the Spam folder and so I hadn't checked that..

In any case it was my view that Google Messages is at the moment definitely NOT a better experience than Samsung Messages. There are more features in Samsung Messages, and there isn't much more RCS available in Google Messages as I was made to believe there would be. So I switched back to Samsung Messages as the default app, and I immediately uninstalled the Google Messages.

And I also no longer get the recommendation to upgrade to Google Messages.

As long as the Samsung Messages app remains on my phone, and remains available in the Galaxy Store, and remains functional and thus "supported", then I will keep using it as my default messages app on my phone. I see no reason at all to switch to Google Messages, unless Google adds all the other features I mentioned above that are in Samsung Messages. Just my opinion.

[usermi80lJMp17]

that's sound awful when i went into samsung chat other day they claim won't come up i don't know if will or not 

i'm thinking about day comes when stop working try out textra and  don't want ads andpay for it with google pay not sure how much you can customize and stuff its no rcs i don't know what phone you got  but i did see he minimum API for Textra is now API 25 (Android 7.1). so for an older phone on android 13 some of stuff prob won't work 

i was asking somebody android form and they say

don't know how Textra themes compare to your current themes, but there are plenty of options and every colour/shade you could imagine. You are correct that Textra will not carry over themes from the Galaxy Store.

posted a screeenshot

https://forums.androidcentral.com/attachments/1000003032-png.366160/

[usermi80lJMp17]

yep that didn't last long after took phone off charger no pop up but i'm seeing it come up at the top again open messenger upgrade to google messages to safeguard chats with real time detection not now upgrade

man i don't want to go into google message right now alot of negativity i can dismissed but it prob be back up again come mon

textra seems interesting paid version since don't want to do ads i can handle paying 9.99 1 time only buy a google play card i just want to continue to use samsung message before it stops dumb warning meh

[Madashell]

Google has become just like Facebook. You will use my apps or you will have no apps at all.

[peepyouioui]

it may be an option and we may still be able to use samsung messages, but whenever i try to message people who have already moved over to google messages, they will receive my texts and i will not receive theirs. i didn't really have a choice but to change to google messages. I'm not a big fan of it. it doesn't seem much better than other apps, and I'm not a big fan of the emojis lol. i think I'll try to find alternative messaging apps that are compatible with google messages, but this is pretty lame.

[usermi80lJMp17]

i was forced early to go into google message after early weds morning when i open samsung text message app covering the whole samsung text message app

basically it was a big screen  upgrade your message experience real time spam detection and custom themes screen effects

get all this and more upgrade google message yada yada

it was black background text upgrade now was red button but still it covered my whole screen i had no choice but to give in only 2 folks got rcs my older brother and youngest niece  turn on sister in law nothing parents who got older iphones and oldest niece sms if i send myself sms msm 

i give it a week but not a fan of customization color wise so bland not sure go to textra and pay 9.99 after ads google play gift card or not  i can switch back samsung message since its still running and i can still used it but i'm afraid that next month samsung message text app will be dead or removed  read youtube someone mention this  not sure if that's right or not if you chat or call samsung they won't say when it will stop working meh

[kaiwen]

"FYI the new Google keyboard AI automatically sensors our speech now."

Yes, these are the real reasons. The obnoxious pressure to  switch to Google messenger is because they want to monitor and record communications. it's why it only applies to U.S. and why it's conveniently happening right before they lose the next election.