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Cosmic Ray

Location Settings - EAlert Experiment?

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Anybody got any idea on what "EAlert Experiment" is and why it is grayed out under location in settingsOnly grayed out option. What is it???

 

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Astronaut

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I reccommend people read Google's blog post about it and their overview (which is vital to understand it)  about how they will achieve this.

 

Important points:

  • This doesn't use GPS at all (but rather bluetooth low energy) 
  • Is designed to be privacy preserving 
  • Uses anonmyised identifiers that are randomized constantly (using SHA-256 encryption)

And the most important part is

  • It is voluntary.

 

I highly encourage that everyone reads Google and Apple's own blog posts and the specifications before you speculate or read anything.

 

https://www.blog.google/inside-google/company-announcements/apple-and-google-partner-covid-19-contac...

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/04/apple-and-google-partner-on-covid-19-contact-tracing-technolo...

 

I think their privacy preserving by design is a good way to make this and perhaps the only way. Both companies risk a lot by producing a contact tracing platform that doesn't  take peoples privacy seriously, both in backlash and number of users using it (which is important). Other companies aren't willing to-do this and use a brute-force GPS approach which, quite rightly, has a lot of people skeptical of the uses of the location data. Keeping it purely bluetooth (bluetooth low energy actually, which is even better as GPS is a large battery drain) and never tied to anyone person is great and I commend the engineers and designers who made this specificiation (without it taking so many years as many specifications do).

For once I'm happy with what Google and Apple have done here and hope this gives it the large amount of users it genuinely needs.

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Constellation

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My Girlfriend read something about google tracking people to see if they are following the COVID-19 shelter in rules/laws, I'm wondering if this EAlert Experiment Location Service has anything to do with that?

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Samsung Care Ambassador

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Having Google Location History enabled already does that. There is no need for Google to add anything. 

 

Checkout https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

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Constellation

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Same question.. no information anywhere Screenshot_20200405-223836_Settings.jpg

 

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Constellation

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Wasn't grayed until I searched for info. When I returned to the location service it was grayed out

 

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Cosmic Ray

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Dude that's a smart thought google is crazy enough lol

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Constellation

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Google, in collaboration with Apple are going to allow users phones to share info and create a warning if you are in proximity to someone who has tested positive for Coronavirus. The system will also track positive cases retroactively for 14 or so days, and alerts will go out to all phones that were within a certain distance of the phone(positive case). You will have to opt in to receive the alerts, and it will rely on people who test positive to register for the program. It will be available for all Android and all Apple phones, about 3 billion users. I'm guessing thats what this experiment is, and once it is up, you will be able to turn it on. https://time.com/5819235/apple-google-smartphone-tracking-coronavirus/

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Astronaut

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I reccommend people read Google's blog post about it and their overview (which is vital to understand it)  about how they will achieve this.

 

Important points:

  • This doesn't use GPS at all (but rather bluetooth low energy) 
  • Is designed to be privacy preserving 
  • Uses anonmyised identifiers that are randomized constantly (using SHA-256 encryption)

And the most important part is

  • It is voluntary.

 

I highly encourage that everyone reads Google and Apple's own blog posts and the specifications before you speculate or read anything.

 

https://www.blog.google/inside-google/company-announcements/apple-and-google-partner-covid-19-contac...

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/04/apple-and-google-partner-on-covid-19-contact-tracing-technolo...

 

I think their privacy preserving by design is a good way to make this and perhaps the only way. Both companies risk a lot by producing a contact tracing platform that doesn't  take peoples privacy seriously, both in backlash and number of users using it (which is important). Other companies aren't willing to-do this and use a brute-force GPS approach which, quite rightly, has a lot of people skeptical of the uses of the location data. Keeping it purely bluetooth (bluetooth low energy actually, which is even better as GPS is a large battery drain) and never tied to anyone person is great and I commend the engineers and designers who made this specificiation (without it taking so many years as many specifications do).

For once I'm happy with what Google and Apple have done here and hope this gives it the large amount of users it genuinely needs.

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