@Godless0rigins wrote: You didn't point out to any inaccuracy . Google services are kinda a big deal to someone that uses them . I've been a mote user since the note 2 and use Samsung's version of apps like Samsung internet instead of chrome , i get most of my apps from galacu appstore , if they dont have it i just sideload from apkmirror . The only google apps i use is the playstore and photos but can do without them .   Note 10 plus has less features than previous notes that costed less and were truly the swiss knife of phones. Half of the features you speak of most users dont use them more than three times a lot of the times . Its Android baby and Huawei phones can simply sideload those google apps anytime . They dont have those features same as the note is missing some other features than other flagships dont have like the 90hz display , 3D facial recognition , infrared and MH a VR rnnnd .     I use to do the same, sideload apps. Before I bought Samsungs for myself, I was strictly a Google Nexus user and rooted them all and my favorite was my last one, the 6p by Huawei. Being in the States, it's likely that I'm not buying another Huawei. Even as attractive as they are, I'm not interested in the need to sideload apps to get semi full functionality.  The 90hz display I really dont care about like the facial recognition, and infrared.  Dont use em    You mentioned the apps I mentioned, saying people don't use them more than 3 times.  Do you consider the percentage of people that bought this device 3 months ago that dont understand why they're getting security updates monthly and why their brand new device that they finally figured out and love is about to get a new OS and look (UI)?  Its quite high.  I work with and live with people that are ok with it but it's because I've explained the whys and they see me getting 2 new phones every year  Wiping them every month just to play with it and constantly come to me asking how to do things with their phones.  Most people are not tech savy like yourself or me.   They certainly arent here demanding a beta release or threatening to go to apple if they dont get it!  The arrogance in that is almost humorous.    I'm good with discussions about it, but having developed themes for BlackBerry for years and building web sites for theme developers for years, it just reminds me of the days that I needed beta testers.  They tested to help me make sure the things I built worked for everyone on all devices.  I guess I'm use to ....well a more understanding group of people that truly knew what it took to develop things. Seems like folks here think Samsung and Pals are in the coffee room and forgot to hit the make it happen button to please everyone else so they can show off to their friends that they've got it first.     I'm willing to bet half of people that get the beta OS wont report back except to complain about a bug and then they will mainly whine about it instead of giving a bug report so developers can see what's going on and fix it.  They just download and run if things work well without feedback.  The feedback is important.  More important than that how impressed and jealous your friends are that you got it first.    Honestly it's more harmful to Samsung or any developer to have that type of user testing beta.  Because yes, tweeting and social word of mouth does have an impact and if you were the developer would you want someone that demands and whines testing something for you?Only to threaten to tell everyone how bad they think you are at what you do rather than test your product and help you find the bugs that you missed and fix them? Then you can release the final product on the world and its then a good product not only because you built an amazing product, but also because you had mature professional and reliable beta testers!     That's the beta testers I wanted and had, I didnt release betas to demanding, threatening and whiny people.  I wish that happened here.   I just think people should frequently put themselves in other people's shoes  ... View more

@Godless0rigins wrote: CtrZThis Huawei phones run Android, they ju ust dont have some google services like the playstore and gmail . Huawei flagships that came after the note have already been updated to stable versions of Android 10 . Huawei nate 30 pro released just a few weeks after the note and also has the Huawei skin oontop already has Android 10. The Mate30 does look like a good phone but those Google services like Gmail and the Play store are um...kind of a big deal no?  And those  lower end phones that you mentioned that run Android 10, do they also have samsungs one UI 2 already?  Honest question because I dont concern myself over devices that I dont have.   However I would be willing to guess that they don't have many of the features that our Note10's have.  I guess if you're more concerned about the latest and greatest OS and UI, maybe any one of those device might suit you better.    I'm not trying to dissuade you from our amazing device, but maybe you should focus on the amazing things you have, and be patient for the things coming.  You wont have to wait long and when it drops, you'll have the best of the best in all regards! ... View more

Lol really!?  For a device I bought about 2 months ago, I've gotten in think 3 updates and each security update was closer to the 1st of the month than it ever has been.     I didnt think Huawei was even to run Android at this point but whatever.  The Nexus6+ by them was a good phone but eh....   Does everyone seriously believe they can demand a Beta release.  Update. Beta is not a security update people.  Relax and learn patience ... View more

The latest pinned note in this forum was 2 days ago and it says soon. So I just assume its happening.......... .. ...soon ... View more

I feel the love! I'm looking forward to beta testing as well and hope it goes smooth....but sort of looking forward to finding glitches and helping to fix them! I miss my old development days. Gonna have to get back into it now that my kids are older ... View more

Did you miss the newly pinned post? Its coming ... View more

Yes and it will come soon.  There is no set time or day though so keep checking your Members app for the banner notification to sign up ... View more

Not yet ... View more

@Samsung_n4sfXnB wrote: I think its absolutely absurd that the power users who spend a pretty penny to own the best of the best dont even get to have the latest operating system. Yet the S line is included. .....Shame on you Samsung! I own Samsung everything and just bought the note 10 plus ....but why? This is such a sad and contagious perspective.  You act like it's the final version and in perfect running form.     Not shame on samsung, shame on all of you guys that think you have the right to make demands for it and think you should have it before anyone else.  Half of you will complain of the bugs in it when that's precisely the point of beta.  Find the bugs, work them out and then release the final version.     Try some patience and be glad you didn't have to wait since February like the S10 owners. they've waited longer and barely paid less.  You act like you're entitled to recieve something youre quite honestly just impatient for and would still complain regardless of when you get it and how well it runs.  ... View more

Time is fluid. Itll happen when it happens. ... View more

@Kekis I bought the S10+ when it came out and traded it in for my Note10+ the Note was 100 more than the S but the S did come out first this year. I really don't mind it getting the new OS UI first. Its appropriate to me since they are both truly flagships ... View more

@Geno71 wrote: Personally I don't care. If people want to deal with bugs and broken apps for a while, it's on them. I just wish it was clear that it's not just an update, a beta means it's an unstable and unpredictable version of OS. So, good luck to you all.   Isn't it clear that it is a Beta since you have to register for it?  I do agree that most shouldnt use it.  Seems many people just want to be first with the OS UI and like you said, have no clue what they're getting into.  Which is why I've repeatedly told people that unless you enjoy finding and helping to work out bugs in software, just wait till the end of the year when the final version rolls out.      Me personally, I enjoy the work and the wisdom it provides.  ... View more

It's less of a sign up and more of a take the offer. When its live, you'll see a notification in your Samsung Members app. The newest rumor date is the 24th, but like the 21st came and went, so can the 24th. When it's ready, its ready! ... View more

Visual voicemail was installed on my Note10+ when I updated all of my apps when I first got my phone. I have premium voicemail thru verizon but the app is thru the galaxy store. ... View more