OneUI 7 Constant Location Access

[PSmitty]

Others online have mentioned this and now I know I'm not crazy. Since the OneUI7 update my phone and tablet say that Google play services are constantly accessing my location. There could be a variety of factors to this on a phone, but on my wifi only tablet this was never an issue until OneUI7.

 

Anyone else experiencing this?

 

EDIT: I did more digging on this with a OneUI6.1 device to see if I could understand the difference here. For future readers, if you notice this too here's what I was able to dig up. I still think Samsung/Google need to align on improving 'this'.

 

TLDR: We need to be able to pick which apps/services show the location indicator

Pre-Android 15 (OneUI6.2, etc.)

• (Since android 10) there was/is a "location in use" icon (). From what I've gathered this mostly appeared when apps tried to get the current location (not cached location) of the device AND the application was active/foreground or very recently used. This did not trigger on system applications/services (google play services, continuity, phone, etc.)
• This is what we were used to seeing, but we didn't see it often except when we expected to (navigation, etc)
• "Phone Services" wouldn't trigger the location indicator because it's a system service that runs in the background

Android 15 (OneUI7)

• Location indicator is now green and colorful
• Location reporting in Android 15 now includes ALL system applications/services, AND any  background requests for the current location (which increases the number of apps that will be reported as using your location) 
• "Phone Services" and all other services that didn't trigger this icon before, trigger the icon now

This is what's causing confusion, you likely aren't being tracked any more than you were before, but your phone is now telling you everything that's tracking you including services in the background. Most people weren't told GPS/location indicator was fundamentally changing. Nor is it in any feature/change/update list I can find anywhere for OneUI7 or Android 15 (seriously, Google it)

Even still, this isn't ideal in it's current state:

• This "full transparency indicator" is nice, but if it's on essentially 24/7, we need a way to hide services/apps that make it appear. An indicator that's 'always on' because of background services that you can't disable is arguably pointless altogether. I'm not going to tap the indicator every few minutes to see if something other than "services" is using my location. The usefulness of a real-time indicator is thwarted if it's basically always on.
• "Phone Services" constantly uses (my) location when "Location" is enabled in quick settings
  • You also can't revoke location permissions from it (greyed out), which suggests it's required
  • HOWEVER - If you disable location altogether in quick settings, "phone services" no longer accesses the location (and the green location indicator goes away), and yet, my phone, messages, etc. still all work.
  • If you look at the permissions for the Phone "app", location can be disabled, which is probably also confusing people trying to turn off location for "phone services" (yes, apps and services are different, I know, many don't though)

Aside from being able to just 'mute' phone services location updates, this "required but not actually necessary" location permission for phone services is clear as mud.

[DARKREIGN]

:hundred_points:. This was not happening on the beta either.

[jG-Wentworth]

I am as well

[Robin621k]

This is a nothing burger!

Your phone was always doing this, the only difference is now you get to see what is, was, accessing location!

[PSmitty]

I'd love to see a source that validates this claim, because this is a monumental breach of end-user trust if true.

[realaud]

A Google search is your friend.

[Robin621k]

They don't even know what continuity services is!

[realaud]

It's something they've never seen before.  I think they added some transparency of system apps running in the background, as system apps do not usually show in battery usage statistics, which is why it was always hard to determine exactly what was using resources when all the apps shown had relatively low usage and the math didn't math.

Yeah, they don't know what continuity of service is, but they are going to turn it off anyway and then come back and complain something doesn't work right.

[Robin621k]

I knew this was going to be a problem when it was implemented, conspiracy junkies are just **bleep**g out that there phones ping something every time they do something.

Use a weather widget and it pings all day long. Open Google maps to find something near you, ping. Find my every couple of hours, ping.

They are going to shut stuff off and they will not be able to find a lost anything.

[PSmitty]

We're not talking about any such things. You do know location icons/indicators have existed for MULTIPLE android generations, right? Giving it a different color doesn't make it a new feature, and there's no documentation on it. I'll eat my words if you can provide something useful.

Also, if the "weather app" is pinging location as "phone services" even though location permissions to the weather app are completely revoked, that's a problem. Maybe not to you, but to the "technology data privacy industry", it's a concern.