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Initial Picture Configuration

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markag
Constellation
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QLED and The Frame TVs

I bought a QN98Q80C about a month ago. I have read the entire 243 page E-Manual and searched and tried most of the video modes. No mode delivers the picture that I am expecting. Is there a first time users' initial setup list that I should follow? I have had the NISI repair people here. They said the TV is fine and working, however agreed that the picture is not what they would expect either. I have a very  fast Internet connection hard wired RJ-45 connection.

Any ideas of what to try next?

The worst performance is when characters enter a dark room, most all detail is lost.

Thanks

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tomsframe
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I am interested in that TV myself so asked Grok.com AI about your black levels. Does anything here help?

To optimize the black levels on your 98" Samsung Q80C QLED TV, youā€™ll want settings that enhance contrast and minimize issues like blooming or clouding, which can affect dark scenes. The Q80C uses a Direct Full Array backlight with local dimming (around 120 zones on the 98" model), so fine-tuning the picture settings can significantly improve black depth and overall performance. Based on available calibration insights for the Q80C series and general Samsung QLED recommendations, hereā€™s a suggested setup tailored for better black levels:
Recommended Settings for Black Levels

Picture Mode: Start with Movie or Filmmaker Mode for a more accurate baseline that prioritizes contrast over brightness. However, some users find the Standard mode offers a good balance with deeper blacks and less dimming of highlights on the 98" Q80C.
Why: Movie mode reduces over-processing, while Standard can enhance contrast without looking unnatural on this model.
Brightness: Set to 20-25 (out of 50).
Why: This keeps dark areas from appearing too gray, leveraging the TVā€™s VA panel for deeper blacks. Adjust slightly higher if the room is bright, but avoid maxing it out to preserve black depth.
Contrast: Set to 45 (out of 50).
Why: High contrast enhances the difference between light and dark, making blacks stand out without crushing shadow detail.
Black Level/Shadow Detail: Set to 0 or -1.
Why: This fine-tunes how dark the blacks appear. A slight negative tweak can deepen blacks without losing detail in shadows, though the exact option name may vary (check under Expert Settings).
Local Dimming: Set to High.
Why: The Q80Cā€™s local dimming is key to improving black levels. High maximizes the backlightā€™s ability to dim dark zones, reducing blooming around bright objects in dark scenes.
Backlight: Set to 30-40 (out of 50).
Why: Too high a backlight can wash out blacks, especially on a large screen like the 98". This range balances brightness with black depth in most lighting conditions.
Gamma: Set to BT.1886 or 2.2.
Why: BT.1886 adapts to content and room light, while 2.2 is a standard for darker environments, both enhancing black perception.
Color Tone: Set to Warm2.
Why: This reduces blue tint in dark scenes, making blacks feel richer and more natural.
Eco Settings: Turn off (e.g., Energy Saving, Ambient Light Detection).
Why: These can dynamically dim the screen, undermining consistent black levels.
Dynamic Contrast/Black Tone: Set to Off or Low.
Why: These features can artificially boost contrast but often introduce clipping or blooming, which the 98" Q80C is prone to given its moderate dimming zone count.

Additional Tips

Room Lighting: Black levels shine in a light-controlled environment. If your room has lots of ambient light, even the Q80Cā€™s VA panel might struggle compared to OLED, so consider dimming lights or using curtains.
Content: Test with HDR content (e.g., Dolby Vision or HDR10) since the Q80Cā€™s Quantum HDR+ can affect black performance. For HDR, stick to Movie mode and tweak backlight up slightly (e.g., 40-45) if highlights feel dim.
Calibration Source: These settings are adapted from RTINGS.comā€™s Q80C calibration for smaller sizes (e.g., 65"), which should scale reasonably to the 98" model, combined with insights from reviews noting its black level performance.

Fine-Tuning

Since the 98" size amplifies backlight imperfections (like blooming), watch a dark scene (e.g., space in a sci-fi movie) and adjust Backlight and Local Dimming. If blooming persists around bright objects, lower the Backlight slightly. If blacks look gray, nudge Brightness down or Shadow Detail to -2.

These settings should give you solid black levels while keeping the picture balanced.

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