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ā03-03-2023 10:04 AM in
Galaxy S23Solved! Go to Solution.
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ā04-17-2023 07:05 AM in
Galaxy S23Same problem over here, I hope Samsung can fix this quickle
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ā04-20-2023 04:58 PM in
Galaxy S23It's also not actually RAW - it's samsung's proprietary version of raw
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ā04-15-2023 10:22 AM in
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ā04-15-2023 04:29 PM in
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ā04-15-2023 05:41 PM in
Galaxy S23The camera fo us was never sharp...on anything. Close up, medium distance, zoom. And when you looked at whatever you attempted to shoot, the results were grainy, absolutely no detail whatsoever, grainy as all heck, and some objects had an aura type outline around them.
I used to photograph for a wire service & did MLB games, where on a cloudy day or night game, you'd push the TriX 400 ASA film to around 1600 or 3200.
The results could be grainy enough to preclude detail, sometimes an aura as well.
This looks strangely similar, but is no way a related causality.
My Verizon helpline calls eventually revealed I was not the only one to get a lemon camera, as they were getting g many similar calls.
Many folks however were not as unfortunate and got perfectly fu crooning cameras in their phones.
I find it intolerable I was made to feel as if this was all my faulty opinion as to what a state of the art #1 camera should not be doing, and that the results were tolerable and what did I expect - this is a phone, not a camera. Alternately they offered the opinion it was the program that showed the images being at fault.
But for the fact that it looked just as awful on the camera image itself, and my old S21 started out its first 8 months with simply astounding clarity and extraordinary detail. It stopped less than a year new and that's why I needed to get the new, state of the art S23.
Planned obsolescence?
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ā03-12-2023 07:49 AM (Last edited ā03-12-2023 07:50 AM ) in
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ā03-12-2023 08:15 AM in
Galaxy S23Plus, in pro mode, you can also use it as auto mode.
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ā03-26-2023 08:32 PM in
Galaxy S23Binning 9 or 16 photo sites together doesn't improve anything if each is so small that in most indoor lighting 75% of the sites didn't capture enough photons to go over the noise floor and produce some kind of meaningful data. This is further exaggerated by the fact that most people light their homes with horridly yellow / orange 2700k or 3000k bulbs (despite the packaging a 3000k bulb isn't any kind of daylight, warm or otherwise). You don't notice because your eyes adapt and treat it as white. I do because I trained myself to not adapt over decades of photography so I'd be able to judge color properly. That affects cameras badly since everything on the market uses a color filter array with a 2 green / 1 blue / 1 red arrangement which means 3/4 of the sensors are receiving severely reduced levels of light (which makes them produce nothing but readout or amplification noise) in the first place
I don't generally get terrible oversharpening, but other artifacts are rampant. Even in bright daylight a quick zoom on tree leaves reveals where the heavy noise reduction turned leaves info somthing that looks like a watercolor filter was applied, so I never really use this phone outdoors like I did sometimes with the Note8. I still have to make the choice between:
1) Fast shutter reaction thanks to camera settings program, which also disables stacking which increases noise and makes images very undersaturated, but makes the camera take the picture when your hit the button and not up to a second later. I usually use this now, I never use my phone camera for anything but pictures of cats being silly or friends and I'd rather have almost B&W noisy images than a blur of something that happened after I took the picture
2) The pro raw camera, which produces incredibly blurry stacked images and hilariously noisy (I'm talking the worst low light sensor ever, Sigma SD9 / 1st Gen Foveon full color at its top ISO of 400 where large areas of the image were blotches of color due to the physics of the sensors) and unusable. Outdoors having 12 or 14 bit raw (Samsung claims 16 but since professional 35mm full frame doesn't pretend to produce more than 14 I'm calling BS. I'm sure they might be outputting 16 bit numbers and equally sure the 4 least significant bits are background noise in the best conditions).
3) Decide I might actually want to do something with the photos or am going outside and take a real camera.
Pro raw camera still outputs stacked raws so it doesn't completely solve this.
The sharpening tool in the photo editor is complete trash; anything higher than 8-9 out of 100 massively overprocesses everything.
I'm guessing to get the 200+ MP sensor looking good enough non-magnified to wow people at the store, they had to tack that oversharpening on to make he appearance of undoing the necessary noise reduction even at base ISO which is likely smearing colors across edges of objects (something harder to notice when there's an overly hard edge in the luminance data).
The worst part is that none of the sensor resolution increases had anything to do with quality increase; even for professional photography with *good* cameras those resolutions are rarely needed; it's all about presenting ever increasing specs to keep the appearance that there's any real reason to upgrade. Processors have barely improved, RAM has remained nearly identical, storage capability has stopped since microsd was removed, etc.
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ā03-30-2023 07:51 AM in
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ā03-30-2023 08:24 AM in
Galaxy S23