Has anyone else been seeing this lately?

[userpMgFwKaOxb]

Take a look at these screen shots. I've said this before but it seems that Samsung Health has real problems with basic arithmetic. (Even though this is a user-to-user forum, I would hope that our friends at Samsung monitor the forum. They should, as it would be good for business.)

I have been noticing this a lot lately, and I've wiped caches, etc to no avail. The hardware has been working fine and I'm not inclined to run down the rabbit hole of filing hardware complaints/returns. It happens with both my Watch5 & Watch7, but what is common to both is Samsung Health. I suspect the problem's roots are in the coding for Samsung Health. 

It's not a deal breaker, but at a basic level it is an unnecessary annoyance derived from a relatively pricey piece of hardware. I think that they can do better. 

[userpMgFwKaOxb]

Thanks for the reply. I know there there are a lot of data that goes into any individual sleep score.....but, when the Insight Card tells you that "Your sleep score rose because you slept more last night than the night before..." there is no equivocation about the reason. It is actually telling you the reason your sleep score rose in this case. I think we should take it as it states, as it is a declarative statement (THE actual reason). There is a natural tendency to "read into" things like this, but the Insight Card is putting it straight out there. We both know that there are a lot of factors influencing one's sleep score, but when the reason they state is arithmetically wrong - it's a real problem. The app is supposed to be giving us useful information about our health, not having us interpret its interpretation of our health.

[userpMgFwKaOxb]

Today, the same declarative: "Your sleep score rose because you slept more last night than the night before." Yes, sir! A whole 5 minutes! And they say Baseball is a game of inches. Those 5 minutes were obviously the longest 5 minutes of my life! These Insight Cards are frankly next to useless, and they do not instill confidence in the "insight" that they give.

[userpMgFwKaOxb]

Today, I was summarily awoken at 3:55 AM to a notificationon on my watch: "Sleeptastic! You got enough sleep last night for a great sleep score. Well done!"

This could have been a follow on to my Sleeptastic post of 3 weeks ago, but in terms of that post and this thread, this is plain bizarre. Take a look at the actual sleep times in the screen shot from today (below). For those talking about quality of sleep, these must have been the best 4 hour and 5 minutes of sleep I have ever had. I did wake up in a start as though a fire alarm went off, a radiant sun on the screen and a double strong vibration on my wrist (even though I have them set to gentle). I think this behavior, some of which exacerbated by recent firmware and app updates tend to decorate these internal math errors in Samsung Health. At one level I believe the app to be great in a general sense, but looking closer I'm starting to see bits of chaos leaking out.

[realaud]

People really take the sleep scores seriously?

[userpMgFwKaOxb]

Not anymore, even for general guidance. I don't make it, take it, or rake it, especially after being woken at ~4 AM for the second time in three weeks. And curiously, it was 3 weeks ago today. I'm going to have one more go at Sammy software support, but if it ends up at happy talk, I'll probably just end up shutting down SH notifications. Kind of disappointing, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

[realaud]

Oh, I don't have notifications on for sleep. I have notification categories turned on snd turned off the categories I don't want notifications for. Do you keep sleep mode on? Those notifications shouldn't get through dnd unless you allowed them to or you are not turning sleep mode on.

[realaud]

I only pay attention to the cycles, snoring, HR and O2. The score means nothing and seems rather arbitrary and based on nothing.

[userpMgFwKaOxb]

I hear you, but I do feel that when I get higher sleep scores, they generally reflect a better night's sleep. The PPG sensors employed to collect the data is almost entirely inferential. That's why Samsung has had such a time with the FDA regarding BP. Extracting good data from those sensors is difficult. But I am quite sure that the functionality of Samsung's BP implementation is without question better than these run of the mill Chinese BP watches that are all over Amazon and their competitors. I don't use snoring or O2 for sleep, but I do use the HR and AFib, as I have a condition. I don't want to lose those.