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One UI 7/ Android 15 Feedback and Feature Requests

(Topic created: 09-18-2024 04:02 AM)
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horlas08
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Please include guests mode to ui 7 or mutiuser feature other small phone have it talkless of High cost phone. I hear the feature is included in iPad thanks

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realaud
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Now I understand why this feature would be necessary. Some apps that should be protected aren't. I guess I never came across one of those.
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MRREEsE
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Just want you guys to start listening to us. The glaring holes and lack of convenience for certain functions makes it hard to promote, remain and buy these devices in the future. We must make a public statement and an in house announcement to our consumers regarding messaging. We have several players ( WhatsApp, signal, telegram etc) that have jumped in and stole an opportunity for Samsung to create some stability between different platforms when messaging. We have these pop-ups to switch to google messages for better functions and security but it doesn't provide that at all, the only thing that's added are a handful of emoji reactions, we still have no control over how ios interacts with our devices. groups created aren't real groups as we aren't allowed to prevent, leave, react or share as we should. We should have the power to control if we are added to any groups whether google messages or Samsung messages. we shouldn't have problems sending pdfs to ios users whether they have the proper pdf readers or not, we should be able to send that file prompting to download the app needed not fail at the attempt completely, there are so many things that could improve this situation and if all fails we need to focus on sharing between android devices more vs ios because its clear  apple will never  work with android to progress communication between the two. We have lost the ability to send rcs to google message subscribers  for absolutely no gain, Ios users have the ability to turn rcs off and they will. this is wasted time. We still don't have font options for devices that exceed 1 thousand dollars. Samsung has done a magnificent job but this has been overlooked as well. there should be thousands of font options in system settings, messages, notes, the dialer etc. there's no need to have only 2 or 3 acceptable options after all this time. We shouldn't need to mod our phones any longer. it seems like the consumers are being ignored and the executives are trying to convince apple of something instead of doing what got us this far, and that's creating a great product without waiting for them. There are a few more baseline concerns but these are just two examples. With one ui 7 we need to implement a messaging product that allows rcs with complete messaging convenience between all android devices firstly at least, using that devices default messaging app. We shouldn't have to switch to google when its no where near complete or comparable to Samsung messages. Before this latest update that completely removed rcs compatibility between a number of messaging clients, mainly the default like Samsung messages, I'm only able to send rcs to Samsung devices using Samsung messages, when at first i was able to send rcs to google messages subscribers as well. We have to be transparent about what's going on, people are tired of being ignored.

AdeptMaven
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IOS 18 has RCS on by default and it creates a much better messaging experience for iOS to text Android users. They can choose to turn RCS off but I highly doubt the majority of users will.

If every user in the group is using an RCS enabled client, people are able to leave the group. If one user in the group is not using RCS it is no longer a group message but a mass text message via mms. Those are inescapable and all the more reason people should use RCS. Samsung has no control over that, that's just how the protocols work.

Google messages is now the default on all Android phones so every android user (who keeps it as the default) will have the same experience. Samsung messages did do some things better than Google messages but it is better for the android ecosystem as a whole to have a standard messaging platform that can then be built upon.
MRREEsE
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Respectfully I disagree if the platform is worse and this is what i meant by my statement, years and years of stagnation. Whether a group message or mass message we should have the ability to prevent contacts from adding us without permission firstly, that's where it all needs to start. If it's an android standard, apple should not have admin responsibility. Toggling read receipts sure, toggling rcs shouldn't be an option, But even then this is carrier dependant which it shouldn't be and were still stuck here when other apps can execute these functions and provide it for free. There are several things wrong with messaging and it's 2024. Samsung and Google needs to do much better.
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-You asked for a messaging unification and got it through Google messages, having Samsung messages be the default doesn't work for the rest of the Android ecosystem.
-You can turn off RCS just like people can turn off iMessage.
-Leaving groups is a RCS benefit and was never going to happen with MMS.
-Google has taken over with Jibe a few years ago, yes the carriers had to agree but since the big 3 did in the US that shouldn't be an issue.

All the others are already using RCS which are all Internet based, just like iMessage, this is the transition from SMS/MMS (which they didn't have to deal with) to RCS

Btw that argument of "I bought a $1,000 phone" holds 0 weight. Samsung nor any company cares when you say that just like the "I've been a loyal customer"
MRREEsE
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It holds weight for sure, that's the only way you see the desired changes. If your satisfied i respect that, but what are you really saying, it doesn't change the stagnation and failure of messages, if Googles attempt was good, I wouldn't be saying anything.
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AdeptMaven
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The whole point of a standard is so that no singular company is in charge. RCS and (SMS before it) were developed by the GSMA which is a body that nearly every phone carrier and phone manufacturer around the world is a part of. SMS was developed in 1991 long before group chats, read receipts, and media sharing were even considered possible. As such you can't stop someone from sending you an initial message (group or otherwise) any more than you can prevent someone from sending you an email or regular mail. Once the contact has been initiated you can block them from sending further correspondence.

RCS has to be optional because it is web based. That's for two reasons.

1. Unfortunately many data connections around the world are metered (pay for the amount of data you use) so it is wise to give customers as many options as possible to limit the amount of data their phone consumes even if that means a poor messaging experience.

2. While the world is increasingly connected there are still spots where one may have a poor cell connection but no internet. And in those cases, instead of every message failing to send multiple times and then falling back to sms, it's easier to just be able to turn RCS off.
MRREEsE
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There are messengers that allow you to distinguish who has the ability to add you to groups and there are other ways around it, but that would be a very handy option, and i understand the logic on poor connection, but i still believe it was poorly done, I understand choice and I'm absolutely for that I just believe the best experience should be promoted and provided and giving certain users the wrong power can damage the group. I would've packaged it a little different or nothing at all, but the truth is apple knows it's not ready that's why they allowed it
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meself
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Just my thoughts but any messages service regardless of how it's used has the ability to remove or add individual or groups to it i.e send text to family as group or friends as group you can choose who to add before sent
MRREEsE
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True but for less experienced users that continue to create groups, or just the baseline protection of preventing unknown numbers to, that option would be a convenience. It already exist. Google or samsung just don't have it.
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