S23 Preorder Feedback ; Trade In deals / Promotion feedback

[SC1988]

These are the worst preorder trade-in deals ever. How dare Samsung try forcing us to sign contracts for 36 months with carriers to get the best deals. Gen Mill and Gen Z hate contracts. People need to boycott till they drop the prices for unlocked trade. For the previous s22 and fold and flip 4 models. CLEARLY SOME PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED STILL GETTING THEM. Sadly looking for clout as well. How pathetic.

[userqvFfmotK9k]

Agree 100% Was going to upgrade to S23 Ultra but not now. Anyone with S22 Ultra shouldn't upgrade to S23 Ultra unless they give us a fair value for the S22 Ultra. We as consumers want a fair value for S22 Utra without being locked in to any carries. What message is Samsung trying to send us. What I'm understanding is that their Premium phone depreciated by 58% (Paid $1200 for S22 Ultra and now only getting $500 for trade in). Why would they expect us to buy their phones if their phones barely have any resale value within a year.

[Brad17845]

I love that the trade in value for the S22U is $700 for the Fold4. On the exact phone that replaces the S23U, $500. I also noticed last night that on the app before you "pre-order" it, it tells you "from $599.99." Go to put it in cart, jumps to $699.99 for no reason. I've pre-ordered almost every year since the S3, minus a few flops. But this year, I'll wait. Since last year I got burned and could have got my S22U cheaper had I waited. 

[fricc2174]

Samsung is so foolish. I can almost guarantee they are losing money. Look at the time line literally every color is still available on Feb 17th 4 days after their event. That never happens. Hopefully they learn a lesson. I buy every year and would this year, but i refuse. Its not simply inflation. Their mark down on trade and the money they will make on those trade ins are way above inflation. The S23 isnt that innovated.

[Abhaya71]

I am really excited about the new Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Seems like a pretty big upgrade over the 8 Gen 1. 

I love my s22 plus and it has been plenty fast enough but the heat and battery life could be improved. If we get a much faster phone with better battery and thermal management that will be enough of a reason to upgrade!

Let's hope Samsung gives us some very tempting trade in offers!

[KennewickMan]

Thermal management is actually a module under the Good Guardians app in the galaxy store. Try that out, along with the other modules! GL!

[Abhaya71]

Thermals aren't too bad after the last update. I try to run things as close to stock settings as possible. Apps will try to decrease thermals by throttling performance and I don't want that.

My battery setting is optimized. I don't use performance or increase app performance. Those waste battery and thermal output with minimal gain.

I initially bought an s22 and returned it for the s22 plus. It's larger size allows for better thermal performance. I am just hoping with the newer process going from Samsung fab to TSMC and second generation optimizations should give us better overall thermal performance.

[Anonymous]

Can you explain to me how a larger battery and a larger screen will help with the thermal performance. For the s22

[Abhaya71]

It has nothing to do with larger battery and screen but has to do with larger physical size of the phone. More heat dissipation due to larger surface area of the device relative to the SOC. Basically the larger glass area on the back of the phone acts like a heatsink. The larger the device the better thermal dissipation.

[ToxicPoptart]

Keep in mind that battery usage will very between users. Even with new internals, if you use your phone heavy then it could basically be the same thing. Just don't be disappointed if it's not too much of a difference

[Abhaya71]

Of course there are a ton of variables and battery size is also a huge factor.

If I get a 20% increase in battery life that would be huge assuming battery size is the same.

As long as battery life doesn't decrease and we get a decent performance lift I won't be disappointed. But assuming a better process node and a little better optimized chip it should be reasonable to expect a 10-20% increase in battery life while getting even better performance at the same time.

My s22 is decent and I push it pretty hard not so much with demanding apps but lots of web use and screen on time.