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Frame TV control with standard IR remote?

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userI5f0LTpJ71
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Ok, this is a different question.  We are looking to control a Frame TV with a standard remote, using IR (infrared).   I am NOT asking about using the OneRemote to control other devices, which I know the OneRemote can do.

 

For reasons I don't need to describe (but see below)  I don't want to use the OneRemote at all.   I want to be able to point a standard remote at the Frame TV to turn it on or off, and to control whether it is in art mode or not.  I don't need to control volume.

 

Since the OneConnect box is hidden (naturally),  there won't be line-of-sight to send an IR command to the OneConnect box (though I could use an IR repeater).   However, I don't see any information that the OneConnect box can be controlled by IR anyway.

 

If neither of those works, perhaps it is possible to have an IR remote to turn on/off the power to the TV or to the OneConnect?  That doesn't solve the art on/off problem though.

 

This is the only issue standing in the way of our going ahead with the Frame TV.

 

Thank you for any help!

 

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In case you're intested, this is what we're trying to do ...Screen Shot 2020-05-13 at 5.38.26 PM.png

 

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We can't guarantee compatibility regarding remotes not designed for this television. The television uses IR for Power On/Off but all other functions use Bluetooth pairing between the remote and the television.

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userI5f0LTpJ71
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i understand that you can't guarantee compatibility using a standard IR remote.  

 

Just to clarify, though, when you say, "the television uses IR for power on/off", you are specifically saying the Frame TV power can be controlled by directing an IR signal directly to the Frame TV?  

 

I believe art mode is controlled by a long press of the on/off control.  Does that work with the IR signal?

 

Lastly, where can I obtain the codes to learn into my IR remote to be able to do this?

 

Thanks for your help!

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I am saying that is how it is controlled. The remote power button uses IR and the rest of the functions use Bluetooth.

 

I do not believe that IR is used to control art mode, long pressing the on/off button utilizes the Bluetooth portion of the remote.

 

Remote codes are dependent on the remote and provided by the remote manufacturer.

 

You are very welcome.

 

As far as the set up that you're trying to accomplish, if HDMI is an option, CEC would be much simpler than setting up a repeater for power.

 

If it is not, a 3rd party smart remote could resolve this, but I do not know the limitations of these remotes regarding Bluetooth functions.

userI5f0LTpJ71
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Thank you, SamsungGill.   

 

I don't question your knowledge or expertize, but I remain a bit confused.   As far as I know (from documents/manuals), the only way to turn on/off the FrameTV is via OneConnect, which does not use IR at all, either as an input to the OneConnect, nor does it use IR to talk to the Frame TV (over the "invisible cable").  Obviously, the OneConnect box does not have an IR sensor, and is normally hidden anyway.  Therefore, I don't see how IR is involved in controlling the Frame TV.

 

I didn't see any specs for the OneRemote that mention IR at all.  What I really need to know is this: does the OneConnect actually emit  IR codes for on/off?   I understand that the OneConnect box can send IR commands to control other devices).  I assume that the IR sensor (that appears to be) on the FrameTV is used only to pass IR to the OneConnect so it can blast it to other devices.    Is that right?  

 

You've said


The remote power button uses IR and the rest of the functions use Bluetooth.

I assume by "the remote power button", you mean the one on the OneRemote?  Does that mean that if you don't point the OneRemote to the FrameTV (so it can see the IR commands), it will not actually turn the TV on or off?

 

So, just to be 100% redundant and duplicative (!), if I CAN turn on/off the FrameTV without even involving the OneConnect box at all ... that's great!  

 

I guess I can possibly deal with the art mode on/off with the OneRemote, but it would be handy if there was a default inside the FrameTV to select art mode or not when the "off" signal is recevied.

 

As to the IR codes themselves, well, I guess I need further clarification.   You're right that normally the IR codes emitted by a remote are determined by the remote manufacturer (and are pertinent to a specific controlled device).

 

However, with a "universal" remote, it can LEARN the IR codes that the Frame TV will respond to.  Perhaps the detailis of how that code is transmitted may vary by the remote.  However,  with all TVs I've ever used, there is a list of functions that the TV responds to, and the remote needs to learn or be trained to emit those codes.  If the OneRemote emits IR codes, it will be possible to learn those codes from the OneRemote into the FireTV remote.

 

As to HDMI, unfortunately, while the source material will come from the FireTV via HDMI, it won't work in this case to use HDMI for on/off, I think.   The FireTV remote uses Bluetooth to talk to the FireTV stick.  I can control content that way, and go to the "settings" menu to control the FireTV stick itself, including powering it off, resetting it, etc.   It's more than awkward (from a UI perspective) to turn the FireTV Stick on or off that way.   Instead, we'd use the FireTV remote to control the TV locally using IR, and use it via BlueTooth to control the FireTV itself. That's why the newest Fire TV remotes can learn the IR codes for most TVs to control on/off and volume/mute.

 

In any case, we're not planning to use Bluetooth features of the remote to talk to the Samsung devices, only to talk to the FireTV stick itself.  We will use the (learnable) IR commands to talk directly to the Samsung Frame TV.

 

Your futher clarification will be most appreciated!

 

Thanks again.

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